[Nanda:]

There are in the world sages, they say

— in what way?

Do they call one a sage for possessing knowledge or possessing a way of life?

[The Buddha:]

Not on account of his views,

learning,
or knowledge

do the skilled here, Nanda,

	call one a sage.

Those who live

disarmed,
undesiring,
untroubled:
	those, I say, are called sages.

[Nanda:]

Whatever brahmans & contemplatives

describe purity
	in terms of views & learning,
describe purity
	in terms of precepts & practices,
describe purity
	in terms of manifold ways:

have they, dear sir, living there in that way, crossed over birth & aging?

I ask you, O Blessed One.
Please tell me.

[The Buddha:]

Whatever brahmans & contemplatives

describe purity
	in terms of views & learning,
describe purity
	in terms of precepts & practices,
describe purity
	in terms of manifold ways:

none of them, living there in that way, I tell you, have crossed over birth & aging.

[Nanda:]

Whatever brahmans & contemplatives

describe purity
	in terms of views & learning,
describe purity
	in terms of precepts & practices,
describe purity
	in terms of manifold ways:

if, sage, as you say, they've not crossed over the flood, then who in the world of beings divine & human has crossed over birth & aging?

I ask you, O Blessed One.
Please tell me.

[The Buddha:]

I don't say that all brahmans & contemplatives are shrouded in birth & aging. Those here who've abandoned

what's seen, heard, & sensed,
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	— all —

who've abandoned their manifold ways

	— again, all —

who, comprehending craving,

are effluent-free:

they are the ones, I tell you, who've crossed over the flood.

[Nanda:]

I relish, Gotama, the Great Seer's words well-expounded, without acquisition. Those here who've abandoned

what's seen, heard, & sensed,
precepts & practices
	— all —

who've abandoned their manifold ways

	— again, all —

who, comprehending craving,

are effluent-free:

I, too, say they've crossed over the flood.