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Vinayapucchanakathā: The Discussion of Asking About Vinaya

Vinayapucchanakathā

Summary:

Mv II 12 PTS: Mv II 15.6 | CS: vin.mv.02.12

Vinayapucchanakathā

The Discussion of Asking About Vinaya(1)

by

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Alternate translations/layout: Ven. Thanissaro | 'line by line' Pāḷi - English

(Mv.II.15.6) [169] Now on that occasion some Group-of-six monks, being unauthorized, asked about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha. They reported the matter to the Blessed One.

“One who is unauthorized should not ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha by. Whoever should ask about it (unauthorized): an offense of wrong doing.

“I allow that one who is authorized ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha.”

“And, monks, he should be authorized like this:

“One should authorize oneself or one (monk) should authorize another.

(Mv.II.15.7) “And how should one authorize oneself?

“An experienced and competent monk should inform the Saṅgha:

“‘Venerable sirs, may the Saṅgha listen to me. If the Saṅgha is ready, I would ask so-and-so about the Vinaya.’

“In this way one should authorize oneself.

“And how should one (monk) authorize another?

“An experienced and competent monk should inform the Saṅgha:

“‘Venerable sirs, may the Saṅgha listen to me. If the Saṅgha is ready, so-and-so would ask so-and-so about the Vinaya.’

“In this way one (monk) should authorize another.”

(Mv.II.15.7) Now on that occasion well-behaved monks, being authorized, asked about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha. Some Group-of-six monks became angered and unreasonable, and threatened them with a beating. They reported the matter to the Blessed One.

“Monks, I allow that one who is authorized ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha after having looked over the assembly and having assessed the individuals.”

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