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Thullaccayavatthukādi: The Case of the Thullaccaya Offense, etc.

Thullaccayavatthukādi

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Mv IV 23 PTS: Mv IV 16.19 | CS: vin.mv.04.23

Thullaccayavatthukādi

The Case of the Thullaccaya Offense, etc.(1)

by

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

2017-2018

Alternate translations/layout: Ven. Thanissaro | 'line by line' Pāḷi - English

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

(Mv.IV.16.19) [248] “Monks, there is the case where, on the day of the Invitation, a monk has fallen into a thullaccaya offense.

“Some monks are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense; some are of the view that it is a saṅghadisesa offense.

“Those monks who are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense should lead the monk off to one side and, having dealt with him in accordance with the rule, return to the Saṅgha and announce, ‘Friends, the offense that that monk fell into — he has made amends for it in accordance with the rule. If the Saṅgha is ready, it should invite.’(2)

(Mv.IV.16.20) “Monks, there is the case where, on the day of the Invitation, a monk has fallen into a thullaccaya offense.

“Some monks are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense; some are of the view that it is a pācittiya offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense; some are of the view that it is a pāṭidesanīya offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense; some are of the view that it is a dukkaṭa offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense; some are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense.

“Those monks who are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense should lead the monk off to one side and, having dealt with him in accordance with the rule, return to the Saṅgha and announce, ‘Friends, the offense that that monk fell into — he has made amends for it in accordance with the rule. If the Saṅgha is ready, it should invite.’

(Mv.IV.16.21) “Monks, there is the case where, on the day of the Invitation, a monk has fallen into a pācittiya offense … has fallen into a pāṭidesanīya offense … has fallen into a dukkaṭa offense … has fallen into a dubbhāsita offense.

“Some monks are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense; some are of the view that it is a saṅghadisesa offense.

“Those monks who are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense should lead the monk off to one side and, having dealt with him in accordance with the rule, return to the Saṅgha and announce, ‘Friends, the offense that that monk fell into — he has made amends for it in accordance with the rule. If the Saṅgha is ready, it should invite.’

(Mv.IV.16.22) “Monks, there is the case where, on the day of the Invitation, a monk has fallen into a dubbhāsita offense.

“Some monks are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense; some are of the view that it is a thullaccaya offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense; some are of the view that it is a pācittiya offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense; some are of the view that it is a pāṭidesanīya offense … Some monks are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense; some are of the view that it is a dukkaṭa offense.

“Those monks who are of the view that it is a dubbhāsita offense should lead the monk off to one side and, having dealt with him in accordance with the rule, return to the Saṅgha and announce, ‘Friends, the offense that that monk fell into — he has made amends for it in accordance with the rule. If the Saṅgha is ready, it should invite.’

Notes

1.: See also: BMCII: Chap. 16: Accusations , Divided Opinion.

2.: Commentary: “He has made amends for it in accordance with the rule”: they should say just that much, then say, “May you invite.” “It’s an offense called such-and-such,” shouldn’t be said — for this is the opening for an argument.

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2017 Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Edition: 2017-09-29.

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