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Pārivāsikādikathā: The Discussion of One on Probation, etc.

Pārivāsikādikathā

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Mv IX 05 PTS: Mv IX 4.6 | CS: vin.mv.09.05

Pārivāsikādikathā

The Discussion of One on Probation, etc.(1)

by

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

2017-2018

Alternate translations/layout: Ven. Thanissaro | 'line by line' Pāḷi - English

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

(Mv.IX.4.6) [192] “Monks, if (a Saṅgha with) one on probation as the fourth should grant probation, send back to the beginning, or grant penance; if (a Saṅgha with him) as the twentieth should rehabilitate, it is not a transaction and is not to be done.

“Monks, if (a Saṅgha with) one deserving to be sent back to the beginning as the fourth should grant probation, send back to the beginning, or grant penance; if (a Saṅgha with him) as the twentieth should rehabilitate, it is not a transaction and is not to be done.

“Monks, if (a Saṅgha with) one deserving penance as the fourth should grant probation, send back to the beginning, or grant penance; if (a Saṅgha with him) as the twentieth should rehabilitate, it is not a transaction and is not to be done.

“Monks, if (a Saṅgha with) one observing penance as the fourth should grant probation, send back to the beginning, or grant penance; if (a Saṅgha with him) as the twentieth should rehabilitate, it is not a transaction and is not to be done.

“Monks, if (a Saṅgha with) one deserving rehabilitation as the fourth should grant probation, send back to the beginning, or grant penance; if (a Saṅgha with him) as the twentieth should rehabilitate, it is not a transaction and is not to be done.

(Mv.IX.4.7) [193] “Monks, the protest of some in the midst of the Saṅgha carries weight, while that of others does not carry weight.

“And whose protest in the midst of the Saṅgha does not carry weight?

“The protest of a bhikkhunī in the midst of the Saṅgha does not carry weight.

“a female trainee …

“a novice … a female novice … a renouncer of the training … one who has committed an extreme (pārājika) offense … one who is insane … one possessed … one delirious with pain … one who is suspended for not seeing an offense … one who is suspended for not making amends for an offense … one who is suspended for not relinquishing an evil view … a paṇḍaka … a person in affiliation through theft … a monk who has gone over (while a monk) to another religion … an animal … a matricide … a patricide … a murderer of an arahant … a molester of a bhikkhunī … a schismatic … a shedder of (a Tathāgata’s) blood … a hermaphrodite … a monk of a separate affiliation(2) … one standing in a different territory … one standing (levitating) in the sky through psychic power … the one concerning whom the Saṅgha is doing the action, in the midst of the Saṅgha, does not carry weight.

“Monks the protest of these in the midst of the Saṅgha does not carry weight(3).

(Mv.IX.4.8) “And whose protest in the midst of the Saṅgha does carry weight?

“The protest of a regular monk in the midst of the Saṅgha carries weight if he is of the same affiliation and is staying within the same territory, even if he just informs the monk right next to him.(4)

“Monks the protest of these in the midst of the Saṅgha does carry weight.(5)

Notes

1.: See also: BMCI: Chap. 19: Penance & Probation .

2.: BMCII: Chap. 21: Practicalities ; and BMCII: Appendix 5: B. Saṁvāsa: Separate & Common Affiliation .

3.: This passage shows that aside from the Uposatha and the Invitation, the mere presence of these individuals or of any other non-ordained person does not invalidate the transaction. (BMCII: Chap. 12: The validity of the assembly, Hatthapasa )

4.: BMCI: As 1, Face To Face .

5.: BMCI: Pc 79, Complete Assembly .

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2017 Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Edition: 2017-09-29.

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