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Tajjanīyakammakathā: The Discussion of the Censure Transaction

Tajjanīyakammakathā

Summary:

Mv IX 09 PTS: Mv IX 7 | CS: vin.mv.09.09

Tajjanīyakammakathā

The Discussion of the Censure Transaction(1)

by

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Alternate translations/layout: Ven. Thanissaro | 'line by line' Pāḷi - English

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

(Mv.IX.7.1) [204] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose(2) the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

(Mv.IX.7.2) [205] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

(Mv.IX.7.3) [206] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

(Mv.IX.7.4) [207] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

(Mv.IX.7.5) [208] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction that was a semblance of the Dhamma by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma, by a united Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

“He goes from that residence to another residence.

“There, too, the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk has been given a censure transaction, in accordance with the Dhamma, by a Saṅgha — a faction. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

Notes

1.: See also: BMCII Chap. 20: Censure .

2.: ce usually means ‘if’, but there is no consequent clause. In this case it seems to indicate that the story is hypothetical. From this section until Mv.IX.7.15 , no verdict is given on the transactions done. The following sections seem to be intended to provide the answer, i.e., that the transactions in this section are all invalid. Perhaps the purpose is to show that Saṅgha transactions should be taken seriously: When there are disagreements over the validity of transactions, it is important to determine which side(s) are speakers of Dhamma and which side(s) are speakers of non-Dhamma.

Provenance:

2017 Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Edition: 2017-09-29.

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