en:tipitaka:vin:mv:mv09:mv.09.23.khem

Preperation of htmls into ATI.eu currently in progress. Please visit the corresponding page at ZzE. If inspired to get involved in this merits here, one may feel invited to join best here: [ATI.eu] ATI/ZzE Content-style

Tajjanīyakammavivādakathā: The Discussion of Disputes Over a Censure Transaction

Tajjanīyakammavivādakathā

Summary:

Mv IX 23 PTS: Mv IX 7.15 | CS: vin.mv.09.23

Tajjanīyakammavivādakathā

The Discussion of Disputes Over a Censure Transaction

by

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Alternate translations/layout: Ven. Thanissaro | 'line by line' Pāḷi - English

(Mv.IX.7.15) [218] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“The Saṅgha there disputes: ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a semblance-of-Dhamma factional transaction; a semblance-of-Dhamma united transaction; it’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again.’

“The monks there who say, ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma,’ and those who say, ‘It’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again,’ — in this case, these monks are speakers of Dhamma.

(Mv.IX.7.16) [219] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, united, impose a censure transaction on him, not in accordance with the Dhamma.

“The Saṅgha there disputes: ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a semblance-of-Dhamma factional transaction; a semblance-of-Dhamma united transaction; it’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again.’

“The monks there who say, ‘It’s a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma,’ and those who say, ‘It’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again,’ — in this case, these monks are speakers of Dhamma.

[220] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him, in accordance with the Dhamma.

“The Saṅgha there disputes: ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a semblance-of-Dhamma factional transaction; a semblance-of-Dhamma united transaction; it’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again.’

“The monks there who say, ‘It’s a factional transaction, in accordance with the Dhamma,’ and those who say, ‘It’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again,’ — in this case, these monks are speakers of Dhamma.

[221] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

“They, a faction, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“The Saṅgha there disputes: ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a semblance-of-Dhamma factional transaction; a semblance-of-Dhamma united transaction; it’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again.’

“The monks there who say, ‘It’s a semblance-of-Dhamma, factional transaction,’ and those who say, ‘It’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again,’ — in this case, these monks are speakers of Dhamma.

[222] “Monks, there is the case where a monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha.

“Now suppose the thought occurs to the monks, ‘Friends, this monk is a maker of strife, quarrels, disputes, dissension, and issues in the Saṅgha. Let’s impose a censure transaction on him.’

They, united, impose a censure transaction on him that is a semblance of the Dhamma.

“The Saṅgha there disputes: ‘It’s a factional transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a united transaction, not in accordance with the Dhamma; a semblance-of-Dhamma factional transaction; a semblance-of-Dhamma united transaction; it’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again.’

“The monks there who say, ‘It’s a semblance-of-Dhamma, united transaction,’ and those who say, ‘It’s an undone transaction, a poorly done transaction; the transaction should be done again,’ — in this case, these monks are speakers of Dhamma.


Help | About | Contact | Scope of the Dhamma gift | Collaboration
Anumodana puñña kusala!

en/tipitaka/vin/mv/mv09/mv.09.23.khem.txt · Last modified: 2022/03/24 13:50 by Johann